You must log in or register to reply here. If it leaks then I will try the teflon tape. It can be any brand or reasonable size and thread, so long as you use the matching nut and washer. I would not bother with this at all except the Fumoto will be there from now until I get rid of the truck. No I don't do it. Been using it for four seasons with the plastic plug on our 303. Best way is to point the threads at your face and wrap 2 1/2 times clockwise (pulling tight) around the threads. I use it a number of places, but not the oil plug. Give it little more if you have a bad plug. The plug will be plenty tight. This way you can avoid the dealer :whistle: Clean the threads well with acetone or break clean before applying liquid Teflon. The plug will be plenty tight. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Keep the teflon tape for your sink. (visions of SNL skit) Let's back up. I guess finding out what they use is more important to me now. The thread provides the preload on the sealing surface ..not the sealing surface itself. If you want to use a Loctite product on the drain plug, use Loctite sealant 565 with teflon. If the threads are not sealing then the joint will leak, Teflon or no Teflon. One "solution" has been to wrap the male threads in Teflon tape as a means of packing the joint to avoid leakage. So i guess i am going to need to drain, clean up, apply some RTV or whatever it is. Using dealers gasket, of the shelve copper and aluminum washers and Including over tightening the drain plug that cause me to re threaded the oil pan. Note: If you are only installing one sensor, use the provided bolts to plug the other open ports. I thought I'd heard of a Teflon sealing tape for oil-based fluids similar to what most of us have used for household water pipes. I am about to change the diff oil on my '02 DII and was wondering what you guys do with the drain plugs? from the lower end of the tank. Nope. The joint goes together so easily that it does not “feel” tight to the installer. The Teflon acts as a lubricant and makes the plug easy to turn. It seems to set up a bit, which was more reassuring than using tape. You can buy just that gasket at an auto parts store. Heck, you could even weld in a tapered pipe thread and use a tapered pipe plug from a hardware store if you want to be like that. A good deal tighter thread fit than the oil drain plug but maybe that's just my bike? The tech found the RTV sealant around the oil drain plug and asked me to check why it was applied. Originally posted by Big John: Teflon tape is a lubricant not a sealer,most of what you wrap on there will be sheared off as you thread in the plug.. Lubricated threads also have a much stronger chance of overtightening & loosening from vibration. only a good pipe dope like #5 on any and all oil fittings. So, you don't get your oil in your water, or water in your oil. Sounds like an application for Permatex Loctite not teflon tape. I bought some product from Bratton's to use on the fuel shutoff on my A pickup. martyi; I've used Fumoto's on many vehicles, including 2 Honda's that also needed the Fumoto Adapter (used a crush washers on the Honda's), and never had any come loose. There's a bunch of different products, here's one: I used teflon tape on my tractor's oil fitting. There were a couple of drips under the car when I came back with a mug of tea. Teflon tape might work but not for long. None of Permatex sealants, blue or red, will stick to oil drain plug. I think I'll try the Fumoto without doing anything with the threads. I believe the teflon tape I used to install the temperature sender in my 1988 Mustang GT caused it to stop working after a couple of years. -> Oil leak at pan drain plug [200][1981] posted by john sargent on Thu May 16 17:26 CST 2002 > V. Is teflon tape ok? Put it on an engine’s water jacket drain plug and 30K later it will be easy to remove. While the manual calls for thread sealant, it's not intended as the primary seal -- that's the job of the O-Ring. On my last bike ('03 Ultra) and the '91 Dyna, they had a pipe plug in the primary case drain. They also said they found a very thin oil film on the drain pulg. The fibre washer was 22mm and the flange on the plug is 21mm, probably doesn't matter. Now, chit happened and drain plug is leaking, like it did on my Silverado, I then use washer AND Teflon tape. I use teflon tape on my brass plug. Any reason I can't use Teflon tape for that? Thread sealer. Locks and seals threaded fittings. Teflon can take the heat of any oil pan ..at least in an engine that is expected to continue running. Passenger Car Motor Oil (PCMO) - Gasoline Vehicles. I'm wondering if it will work. Most auto part stores have over sized drain plugs just for this reason. Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:08 am Post subject: Sealing drain plugs: is there a Teflon tape? To facilitate this process a lubricant such as pipe joint compound or Teflon tape is used. Suggested Applications: (typically) When you take your drain plug out you can see it was not a tape but an applied liquid. Additionally, Teflon tape is not a sealant, but has been adopted for thread sealing because of the lubricity it offers. The patch would be to wrap the plug bolt in some teflon tape. Two reasons why I wouldn't consider it. I have used teflon tape with high quality plumbers pipe dope in the past, but always seem to … Second, if some of the tape sheared off and started floating around in the oil it could cause other problems. 4.6 out of 5 stars 54. necessary oil feed lines or any other sensors at this time. I'd like to take the plug out and put something on the threads to keep the gas from seeping past. When you put the plug back in use teflon tape, wrap the tape one and one half turns around the threads one -two threads up from the bottom in the tightening direction (so when you screw the plug in the tape is pulled tighter and not pulled loose). -> Oil leak at pan drain plug [200][1981] posted by someone claiming to be Rob A on Thu May 16 21:34 CST 2002 > V. Except for gas lines where only pipe dope is used. It's a floor cleaner!! Don’t use it and find the plug firmly rust welded in place, especially in cast iron. 65128 Transmission Drain Plug Kit: Oil Drain Plugs - Amazon.com FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible ... so I covered everything in black oil resistant gasket maker before i tightened it down. I used teflon tape on my tractor's oil fitting. Best way is to point the threads at your face and wrap 2 1/2 times clockwise (pulling tight) around the threads. Has anyone used a teflon tape wrap on their oil plug before? This might take some time if it’s a slow leak. sets up like a silicone but with more of … Another great property teflon tape has is it prevents the threads from seizing. Permatex® High Temperature Thread Sealant No. I used the plumber's teflon paste as I had some, it works on hot, high pressure fittings, and it's pretty cheap compared to the little tubes of stuff sold in auto parts stores. I drain after every trip out unless using water system/water heater in next week or so. As pointed out, the threads don't seal, so it wouldn't help with sealing. i dont think it is that much of an issue, but if it makes you feel better, loctite would be the way to go. Oil does not seem to erode the tape at all and I have yet to have a problem using this method on any car or truck I ever owned. Keep the teflon tape for your sink. You should use COPPER WASHER properly torqued ONLY. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. Thread swells from fluid, and seals plug threads. : Getting ready to put the transmission drain plugs back in my '53 SC. It's a metric thread in the block which takes this oddbal plug that isn't a tapered thread like a pipe, but a standard 10mm metric thread sealed with a copper washer under the top. Teflon tape comes in 3 grades here:-1) White or extruded tape. teflon tape vs thread sealent/compound for glass threads. I have pipe threads on the transfer case and tranny fill plugs, so I used a bit of Teflon pipe thread compound on the plugs. Is teflon tape ok? As for the torque on the plug I would say to use a wrench, not more than a foot long, and pull using just your little finger on the end of the wrench. Is teflon tape ok? It is the gasket between the bolt head and pan that seals the drain. It's stable @ 400+/-. Thread swells from fluid, and seals plug threads. As for the torque on the plug I would say to use a wrench, not more than a foot long, and pull using just your little finger on the end of the wrench. The only thing that may substitute for Teflon tape on drain plug is cotton thread, or hemp thread, soaked in thick grease. I'd just invest in a new V6 radiator… I use it on the diff plug, and the pipe-threaded plugs like the block drain plugs, oil pressure sender, and threaded coolant connections. teflon tape is oil resistant so it should work,however it's meant to seal threads that are tapered.in your case the oil plug does the sealing on the flange not on the threads so it's not going to work properly.if you're in a pinch you can try making some strings out of the teflon tape and wrap them around the end of the thread (kind of making an o-ring)get the proper washer I've had to do this to the plug on the Legend. Teflon tape should work for this. Look for a paste type instead of the tape, as the tape can plug up filters if it happens to tear off from the plug due to improper wrapping. I am going to clean out my heating oil tank (280 gal), and need to know which is the best thread sealer to use on the 3/4" pipe thread when I put a drain valve in the bottom end of the tank. We don't use Teflon tape on hydraulics at work because of that and it also can cause solenoid valves spools to … It's a metric thread in the block which takes this oddbal plug that isn't a tapered thread like a pipe, but a standard 10mm metric thread sealed with a copper washer under the top. You should use COPPER WASHER properly torqued ONLY. gosh, after all these years using it to seal pipe threads, I find out it can't do that. Get it as soon as Mon, Jan 11. It's from the flat of the washer/gasket being pressed against the pan. Don't use Teflon tape here. If you have to use a thread sealer, I prefer liquid over tape for the engine oil drain plug. Or is there a better solution? Link to post Share on other sites. I definately am not into over tightening it, but none of them have moved at all on me. I figured that it would get displaced as I screwed the sensor in, allowing for a good ground. Oil PSI sending units and sensors, oil and coolant lines, fuel fittings. I had my concerns on silicon also, but when you go to a transmission rebuild class and John Twist says to use a light coating of silicon on the plugs that can leak, you take him at his word. DO NOT use it on machine screw threads. I am also concerned about the teflon tape and the high heat in the oil pan. It could surely be used to assure that you'll be able to remove a plug (like Kestas where the plug might be prone to seizure from lack of use) where you don't have a specific compound on hand for such use. I will change the transmission oil with the seals and plugs for now, but if it again leaks then I wont buy new oil again, I will just drain the ( few weeks old ) oil, use teflon tape and then pump that oil back to the transmission. It will cause stripped threads and all kinds of drama some mechanic or next owner will have to suffer through repairing. Customer Question. I wouldn't put it over the entire thread to be sure it didn't get into the pan but at the base of the bolt it seems to do the job quite well and I only use … Teflon is a thread LUBRICANT, not a sealer, and aids in removing a bolt or pipe at a later date. ONLY!!! So I'm looking at teflon tape(the type you use to seal water pipes). 10-17-2013, 10:00 PM Have used TT with all our prior RVs too. Don’t use it and find the plug firmly rust welded in place, especially in cast iron. As JD mentioned, debris from draining the bilge can easily get caught in the threads preventing the threads from sealing which would also prevent teflon from sealing. 6. Has anyone ever had a brass Fumoto valve cause corrosion of an aluminum oil pan? Do i need to use thread sealer or teflon tape on my drain plug screws for my 08 screemin eagle for trans - Answered by a verified Motorcycle Mechanic. The oil leak gets worse with gasket and washers. I have used teflon tape many times to make sink, bathroom and other water/hose type connections and was wondering if putting a wrap or two on the Fumoto threads would do any good. Keep the teflon tape for your sink. One of the high temp thread locking compounds looks and smells like plumber's teflon goop for threads. Teflon tape should work for this. Trailer boat, in fresh water, not an issue either way. I do not want it to break-down and swirl in my oil. I've tried wrapping the threads of the plug w/ plumber's tape and replacing the o-ring, but it didn't solve the problem. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Tapered pipe thread seals by virtue of the taper wedging and it is appropriate to use sealer (I personally prefer teflon tape). The next sensor I installed, I used some white thread sealant by Permatex that smelled a bit like isopropyl alcohol. Teflon tape is a lubricant not a sealer,most of what you wrap on there will be sheared off as you thread in the plug.. At my work, teflon tape is not used for lubricant piping because strings of it can get where they are not supposed to. Additionally, Teflon tape is not a sealant, but has been adopted for thread sealing because of the lubricity it offers. It is possible that someone very ham handed has damaged the case thread but that takes some doing.. FWIW, I have noticed that the thread fit on my R1200RT is pretty snug. When you put the plug back in use teflon tape, wrap the tape one and one half turns around the threads one -two threads up from the bottom in the tightening direction (so when you screw the plug in the tape is pulled tighter and not pulled loose). The purpose of a thread sealant is to “plug” the leak passage. Plug on the OD (D type) is also course thread. It's actually the teflon tape that plumbers use whenever they connect threaded pipe. The shop manual says to use Loctite 290, but at the dealer they said their service guys always use Teflon tape so there's no leaks. Don't use Teflon tape here. It's cheap to replace the oil, but not cheap to replace the engine. Do not over wrap the drain plug. Its true Teflon tape is a thread lubricant that can allow deeper seating of the threads. Teflon is a sealer ..and not (as others have said) a thread locker. 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