Interestingly, the previous model X100T was the one to introduce phase detect AF, yet it didn't deliver a significant improvement. Is there any issue with the camera that you feel requires a firmware update? So just set Lightroom to zoom to 50% instead, or whatever you're using. With the same 42MP BSI CMOS sensor from the Sony a7R II, the RX1R II also inherits that camera's sophisticated on-sensor PDAF system with 399 autofocus points. For some users, these drawbacks will not be a big deal. Use the remote shutter release and the result will be some very serious, high-resolution photos. You cannot zone focus it, but pre-focus to a known distance will work. RX1 is ultracompact, RX100 is infracompact; what is compact then? Adobe Flash has had a tumultuous nearly 25 years of existence, but despite its problems and bugs, Flash was a staple of the internet experience for many years. Not for everyone but I'm glad I exist in a mad universe where things like this can happen. Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R Review: pushing the limits? It has hard stops, a limited turn radius, a finger tab to approximate a focus distance setting without so much as glancing at the camera or lens, and responds so quickly to user input that you'd swear it was mechanical. The idea is to set them up so you don't have to delve into the menu. Everything I said was referenced to me. Still 35mm, unchaged aspect. I don't have IS/VR worries like I used to with this camera. Front view of the Cyber-shot RX1R II. It does not say that you will get blury images off center. "If you took a pole today of cameras used by serious, published, street photographers, I don't think you'll find the RX1r II very high on the list. If you don't care about it, you can always just turn it off. I am sorry you did not see any better in this life yet. I assume manual focusing using the scales on the manual ring would work, though they seem to be pretty spares of info. is that the case on this or even other similar Sony products? Milksto, you really need to stop looking at pixel peeping rubbish and, instead, stop guessing/ making stuff up. Do you hate Canon because their sensors are always behind Sony's? For that reason it negates the $1000 premium you are putting on the lens. Fujifilm's GF 63mm F2.8 R WR was the first lens to come out for the medium format GFX system, but we've slapped it on a GFX 100 to see how it stands up to 100MP of resolution. It's useless as a street camera.I tried one yesterday and the AF is too slow and sluggish and then there's the extreme high resolution that is none too forgiving of bad technique. Sticking to what they do best will continue to benefit them. But are the photos good enough for casual use? I could understand them trying and failing to design a great and intuitive menu system. Year! In more dynamic situations, the fiddly buttons, dials, and menus would drive me crazy and cause me to miss a lot of opportunities. Image cropped slightly to taste, uncropped image available in sample gallery. The Powershot Zoom can't compete with pro cameras for image quality, though it sure does fit in your pocket. Hopefully they have sealed the lens really good. Go watch this video on the Master, Daido Moriyama and it may make things clearer why all cameras aren't really suited to street photography... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCL1SnIYZUw&t=185s. Why can't Sony design a camera that is simple to use? You are the only one claiming there are "poor optics" in this camera. Mhmm.. Since you like to quote DXO so much I will leave you with this. The RX!Rii is marketed toward different people. I think the problem is the resolution of the sensor.42MP is just a bit too demanding of shot discipline to be able shoot it in a run and gun method. What isn't obvious (to me) from the scene comparison tool is which setting was used for the anti-aliasing filter. You have no glue! I fix them and resell them, they are almost always defective, they were all unreliable. hahahOf course there are gear suited better for each kind of photography. The resolution was shocking. Ahead of this year's virtual CES, Dell has announced new additions to its UltraSharp family of monitors, including a 40" curved 5K monitor. In other words, it's more than fast enough for the real world. The RX1R II's sensor, being shared with the Sony a7R II, is a known quantity. If they put a Fiat engine in a Hummer and charged BMW 7 money the owners would probably use a Canon 5DS to take pics of it.. ;), the 3 year old canon 6d ff and 3y/o d600/d610 with small primes are a much better option. I worried about RX-1 dust but it has not been an issue for >2 years. Probably not gonna happen though, is it? But I suspect that setting this camera up for zone focusing will be difficult due to its poor ergonomics and menus. Ultra means 'beyond' so, what 'beyond compact' means? I think I got it.But it's important to clarify that it's not the ideal street camera for the way YOU shoot. Add the economic Sony 28mm f2, an excellent lens which is also very small...Or, if as Ray Sachs suggests, 24 mp is enough, then the A7ii with the 28mm f2; both have IBIS for hand held shooting; or, if you want half frame, the A6000 (now $500) plus the sony 28, even smaller (but no IS with this lens.). Sunset was officially pretty close and guess what? The battery doesn’t last long. Done that several times with the RX1R and were never disappointed.I experienced the Zeiss Sonnar 35mm F2.0 as an excellent lens that rivals the Sony Zeiss 55mm F1.8. Find out what's new and what isn't in this video overview. Building upon its GPT-3 language model, OpenAI's new AI creation, DALL-E, can create images of anything you can describe with varying levels of success. If you're an Auto ISO shooter, you'll be pleased to know the RX1R II's implementation of auto ISO is simple and well thought-out. So your words about Sony's class leading lens are frankly laughable. Historically, fixed lens cameras (be they folders, rangefinders, or SLRs) have always been less expensive, not more. With Rx1rII you don't even have to care about that, because leaf shutter is silent enough.But for you.. anything less than ideal (like making any kind of adjustment between the shots or slowing down your own movement for 2 seconds) automatically turns the whole thing into "useless". You "could" pre-focus to a set distance, but for $3200, I was not going to entertain that cr@p every time I walked outside with it. The RX1R II is a small camera that's easy to pack, and light enough that you're liable to forget it's hanging around your shoulder. Yes it has some field curvature, so not ideal for shots of brick walls but normal landscape images shot with this camera are stunning in richness of detail, I'd say on par with Leica S with 45mm lens. I agree, the wheels on the Ricoh GRD are fast and responsive. Can it successfully merge the two? Sharp, fast, and top-shelf optics. I've sold all of my Canon cameras and accessories and am currently saving up for a Leica Q. I am amazed at the amount of praise I see all over the place for Sony cameras in light of all their infuriating drawbacks. Fabulous little camera and, having tested both, better than a Leica Q (which is even more expensive still). Once made and assembled it should make film copying much quicker and easier. The Nikon Z7 II has the same great ergonomics as its predecessor, but has more processing power, dual card slots, 4K/60p video, improved autofocus and more. All the rest is set in the quick menu. The worst someone can really complain about is the battery life. I think if a serious bug was found they'd fix it - I found their service with the light leak issue very good - the store phoned me and swapped it in 2 days flat. and go anywhere off the center (e.g. So whats up with this? "Of course I won't. Images are uncorrectable and thus unusable. Not the advent of amazing new mobile computing software from Apple then Google? I've seen little evidence of this. P.S. The problem with A7R II is that its fallacies only start with lens availability and cover many other aspect of a camera system.It will yet take Sony years to catch up with the competition though Sony is clearly moving in that direction but does not yet seem to get it right. Batteries are cheap and small. It will now make it easier for travelers to legally fly. We were pretty darn excited to get outdoors with the RX1R II and see what it can do. I didn't need to look at the Web.I had one in my hand.Tried using continuous focus but it didn't help either.I set it up the way I setup all my Sony's (I've owned A7s ,A7II, A7s II, and now A7r II and A6300). I had to pay $620 to repair it. And if that weren't an option, I'd be looking at Fuji. Your "hate" Nikon for their poor live view implementation? Camera. Then you should just stick with the first version. Obviously it all depends on what you call fast. Does the RX1R II Mark II have a 'silent shooting' mode?Thanks, Since it has a leaf shutter it doesn't need a silent mode. Just look at studio comparison of RX1R II and A7R II. Please let me know where this adjustment can be found. What is ultracompact supposed to be? Hardly the most important aspect of a camera, especially considering things like battery life are in the same list. 1. You are missing the point mermaidkiller. In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing over $2500 and recommended the best. See for yourself how it performs. Chris and Jordan show you how it works. If they left the same lens on 42 megapixel sensor then bad... Not enough. But the autofocus system in the RX1R II isn't slow by any means. You have no clue how to use the camera. If you do then there are only two reasons you could come up with a statement like "poor optics". :DKG, same here. Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX1R II Review. That aside I'm very, very pleased with the results I've got so far. For people like me who mainly shoot street and urban, it provides stealth, quiet operation, and it is every bit as easy and a lot more fun using your feet to zoom in and out. Thus, my experience with the a7r is not all it it pertains to be, forewarned is forearmed. Image cropped to taste. Thanks for your reply.But have you seen "the best quality" from this camera, or only "seen" through what the producer said?Have you seen the MTF table of this lens on this camera?And the "best quality" is very different from each one... relates to the their usage... Sony RX1R II is not a FF point & shoot camera. Sorry, but there is nothing exaggerated in plain facts. Check out the photos they took along the way and judge the image quality for yourself! Bekijk en vergelijk alternatieven voor de Sony Cyber-shot RX1R II Zwart. The field curvation makes it not the first choise for flat subjects but its sharpness wide open is great and you will have a hard challenge to find a better 35mm lens. Understood now your fallacy in DXO quotation? That is a few pixels wide on 42 megapixel sensor. Yes, i saw the raws and indeed that noise is from editing, much too much shadows lifting. Wow, this is an expensive point and shoot. If you are paying $3300, Sony can definitely add the thumb grip. Slips into coat pocket. As we'd expect from a camera that basically looks like a bar of soap with a lens attached, handling is fairly straightforward. Sketch242 Since my RX100, also purchased in 2012, still works perfectly I am interested in that upgrade. Dust particles are really small, and manage to sneak into everything... Wouldn't dust on a small, high pixel density sensor cause the loss of more pixels than a large lower pixel density sensor. This is just a stupid statement. I bought the original RX1 shortly after it came out. I personally find touch screens annoying, a joy stick control maybe, but that also might get in the way. What's the best camera for travel? The image quality is excellent. UK - no one has a camera for me to asses. But the doesn't mean the new cameras aren't great for that purpose.Other exemple: nowadays there are many cameras that could be great for photojournalism, but most "experienced" photojournalists still prefer to use cameras like 1DmkIV/ 1Dx. If it were deigned as it should be done, properly, then people would suddenly wake up from hallucinations of the mirrorless smokehouse. Copyright Office. A marketing deception Sony line's of FF cameras suffer from, which seriously affects theoretical optimal performance of used components. The RX1R mk II's resolution and dynamic range just win over any other camera (including any Canon Full Frame camera)...The RX1R also has a leaf shutter :). But their refusal to even try, in the face of loud and unanimous criticism, is inexcusable. Should you need it, though, when enabled, the OLPF does an excellent job of keeping moiré to a minimum. I’ve thoroughly enjoyed reading this review, as it has made me all the more confident in my plans to purchase of a Fuji X100F for less than half the price. No stress at all! A slightly lower budget version of this camera with a 20-24mp sensor would have been the ticket for me. That's exctactly why I told you to keep shooting with the Ricoh. Dylthedog,If I am to pay the consequences of 42 megapixels I at least want to have the full benefits (this is wrt pixel pipping). Is this a typical result from this "mighty" sensor? Basically, you can get flare if you are trying to, and you can easily avoid it if it isn't your thing. 5 DS R class. Initial results from our studio test scene showed excellent results at the center of the frame, but the semi-wide focal length and flat field of our scene show some field curvature, and don't really do the lens justice. Complaints are subjective. At f/8 and 1/500s should be even easier. I agree it's terrible though. As for the lens, I think Sony *should* have updated it for the added resolution. Many manufacturers look to this model now and whether you like it or not, it's hear to stay. This revised output has been greatly improved in terms of both color and noise reduction, while still retaining impressive levels of detail even in low contrast areas. Even on the medium format side, the Fuji fixed G(x)645 series or newer fixed GF670 cost a small fraction of their interchangeable lens cousins. We created four polls, covering lenses and cameras, including more than 50 products in total. A lot of it depends on the processing. I'll stick to my Ricoh and EM1 for now. Also remember that even A7R II does not yet have any native mount lenses (let us hope G Master line be such) that match the sensor resolution. The maximum shutter speed if 1/4000 sec. You are not serious?42 MP requires much stricter technique than 24 MP and I agree with Ray, this camera blows for street photography (at least the run and gun style I practice). The battery concerns, not so much. P.S. >> If you go that route, buy the extra grip? It is actually a marvel in miniaturisation, and that cannot be overstated enough. How does one take the plunge into analog photography? Take a look at the exposure tab at imagine resources review, and look under output quality. We are yet to see proper test for new 42 megapixel successor. After a flurry of camera announcements from Sony towards the end of 2015 we were not expecting any big launches. With A and E mount cameras Sony has addressed problems with firmware updates but not with the Cyber Shot RX series. Unfortunately I discovered this right after my camera died, so I never got to try it. You better face reality than stay blind. I liked the results: https://500px.com/photo/181230029/looking-up-by-ivo-de-man-?ctx_page=2&from=user&user_id=16043137, But no doubts about it, the X100F is also a jewel, and the photographer's skill will always be much more important than the camera used :). Is it a great niche camera if you want superior sensor and optics in a small FF package . With great image quality, impressive speed and powerful features, it's a compelling option that doesn't require a monthly subscription. The RX1R no doubt has the advantage when it comes down to image quality and dynamic range. I dont think the lens are interchangeable. A camera with a removable lens can easily have its sensor cleaned, even at home. Sony RX1R II Hands-on review: Sony's second stab at a full-frame compact camera improved in almost every area. Other systems might have CA correction on by default and you might not even realize. So many things said and you still don't admit that's just about your peculiar (and unflexible) style of doing the thing... not representing street photography in general.Of course electronic shutter has the sensor readout time (which creates the "distortion" you're talking about). And did you miss the original RX1? Check out our sample gallery and decide for yourself. Coulda, woulda, shoulda...". If Chrysler put a hemi engine in a Fiat body and still charged the Challenger price, the owners of that car would likely want the RX1R-II to take pictures of it. If you look at raw in the studio comparison you will see that EVEN THE VERY CENTER is not as sharp on RX1R II as on A7R II. The focusing is not really linear, more like software-controlled exponential to movement type. Look at the Sony Zeiss 35mm F1.4. My RX100 for instance has never had a firmware update issued I know of but then it really didn't need one. I hate this kind of sensor, they always look dull, really dull, no sparkle at all, why is that? The true resolution of a smart phone is much less than the advertised number because so many pixels are packed into such a small area that extreme amounts of noise reduction are necessary even at low iso. Which would to some degree (not the presets, obviously) be mitigated by a touch screen. The thumb grip makes the camera comfortable to hold, but it’s expensive and gets in the way of some vital controls. I'm currently trying to get the A6300 to work, but finding small, wide lenses that actually bring out the best of the sensor is hard.My current favorite is the Loxia 21mm F2.8, which I'm shooting zone-focussed @ F8 1/500s and it seems to be working. Based upon the original RX1 released last year, the RX1R is a compact camera with a DSLR-sized sensor, but with no anti-aliasing (AA) filter. New or older version. "we use the a7R II as opposed to the RX1R II to demonstrate this because the RX1R II's subpar lens quality wouldn't yield a fair comparison in this off-centre section of our scene". Read more, DPReview Editor Barney Britton has put some miles on the Sony Cyber-shot RX1R II, shooting it all over Western Washington and even bringing it to the Arctic Circle and back. Precisely how long, of course, depends on the shooting settings you’re using, but it feels like it needs a bigger battery. Coming from manual focus: Leica M and Mamiya 7 and a Sony a7R with a Zeiss ZM 35mm f2.0, and of course the Leica manual lenses. It certainly has NOTHING to do with the IQ horror on the DPreview's test scene of the RX1-R a couple years ago & again now of the RX1-RII. If you go that route, buy the extra grip? So your argument that it is all down to field curvature breaks on its head - sorry but you touched on the wrong angle to prove that optics are not as bad as they are.Jpeg clearly applies some sharpening as it is sharper than raw. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find a camera with better low light image quality. I've found that on very cold days, after the battery says it's exhausted, taking the batter out and holding it in my hand for a while to warm up lets me get a few more shots. >> Are you that poor a photographer that you have to reference DXO for everything. People knock Leica for their prices, but there isn't a single competing camera on the market with features like this. Our theory is that in S-AF, the camera uses a combination of its CDAF and PDAF systems, using PDAF to get near the point of focus, and CDAF to fine tune it. At the risk of laboring the point, battery life really is embarrassingly bad. You don't need a heavy tripod. It's just unecessary/neutral. Sigma's 35mm F2 DG DN designed specifically for mirrorless cameras is a compact, well-built lens that produces lovely images. Next there's the law of diminishing returns. Some nice comparisons may be between the top cameras from every range. A lot of times you will want either a wide angle or a telephoto. Also a fair point. This full-frame compact boasts the same 42.4-million-pixel sensor as the Alpha 7R II and a fixed 35mm f/2 lens. I generally prefer mechanical controls, and would like them to stick around as well. Your right I will stop feeding! So often DPR makes claims that are untrue. Sony's quality control must be really awful if every reviewer except you gets a bad one! Sony does not have a in house repair center in the US. I have the A7Rii as well. Oh wait, you don't own one so you should not be sharing your opinion on it. Every review of a Sony camera describes it as a maddening mix of superb sensor technology and optics paired with infuriatingly poor controls and menus. I made the mistake of attending a local street photography festival, where Leica was handing out a variety of cameras and lenses for free 90 minute test drives. It is razor sharp on the 42.4 megapixel sensor! Dit zijn populaire modellen met een vergelijkbare prijs en specificaties. I don't find the lens + body pricing argument relevant because the focal length is fixed at something that is way too limiting for me. So why use 42 megapixels sensor if the camera due to poor quality optics will never be able to use them?!! I might yet buy one. So in the end, who is the RX1R II for? First: because it's a very new (less than 2 year old). That's a 60% reduction in size. If you are paying $3300 for this, then you can definitely add $249 for the TGA-1 thumb grip. As with all high megapixel bodies, though, sloppiness in your technique will shine through in absolute sharpness (or the lack thereof). If i put the 1.4 on there it is not something I am going to carry around. Can you tell me any of the highest quality primes other than telephoto that have OS? Wishing for a touch screen and saying the lack of one is a negative, I see as two different things in a review. I'd rather have an RX100IV which is smaller. Makes me think if you dialed up a little more sharpness and contrast on the A7rii you might have a completely different story. From everything I've read, the X100F dramatically improved AF performance over its predecessors. It weighs less than 500 grams and is built like a tank, the lens is gorgeous, it has every function and mode of an A7R ii bar the interchangeable lenses, but that is also its appeal. (Source: Sony.) En uiteraard het verschil in scherptediepte. I don't get what's the problem with yours. @miksto:poor optics... lol ;-))The RX1R and RX1RII festure the same lens which is class leading, stunning and ultra-sharp even wide open and has very nice contrast and bokeh. And it is not only optical resolution that is bad on RX1R lens that was tested by DXO. "The problem with the RX1r II is that it is focus by wire and there are no focal length markings, making zone focussing near impossible.". I've found this lack of continued support truly disappointing for a camera at this price point. And as I said below, for those that want to use a touchscreen, having one built-in would be great. The Cyber-shot RX1R II's lens has all the hallmarks of top glass, that blue Zeiss logo to the side being one giveaway. With DNG they can get as small as 40% of the uncompressed original (for the lower iso images). They do not test optical resolution and other optical qualities at all. Cold weather photography (bring a spare battery), action or video shooting. So, just keep shotting with the GR and be happy. In many cases there's no need for change. For framing your 42MP masterpiece, you now get a tilting screen (but not a touchscreen), and a handy pop-up viewfinder like the Sony Cyber-shot RX100 IV. It's just a great camera now, and I've no complaints. Here are some comparison shots shot in RAW between ISO 200 and 51,200: http://i.imgur.com/CyyXJdS.jpeghttp://i.imgur.com/VVmSJbw.jpeg http://i.imgur.com/uVOM1wP.jpeghttp://i.imgur.com/T0xY18U.jpeg. "If only Sony had made the battery door removable, allowing for a small external grip to improve ergonomics as well as accompany a larger battery. Does it do video as well? =). The lightweight, compact strobe includes a magnetic round head and incorporates an impressive array of features, including wireless compatibility. That's the magic of a free market. 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